Slapped a 60x780 on my Epic Evo in place of my trail bar. My hands appreciate the extra compliance, but by no means is the bar soggy. I usually run a 760mm bar, but left these at 780mm for now and I have no complaints about the extra with. the negative rise means I added 1cm more spacers under the stem to get within 1cm of my old height, but after a few rides, I didn't notice a thing. The positioning of my Garmin on the BarFly mount is much better than my previous K-Edge set up (NOTE: my bar came with the mount, which wasn't clear on the website). Less costly than the Royal Cockpit on my Aethos, but still not cheap. That said, I think it's worth every dollar. Very happy with 2 Royal Cockpits now.